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This page will have information saying how to join us...
Links to current site where our recruitment requirements are listed
Link to the raidplanner site so people can apply to join..
https://doturaidplanner.com/ - APPLY HERE!!!
Links to current site where our recruitment requirements are listed
Link to the raidplanner site so people can apply to join..
https://doturaidplanner.com/ - APPLY HERE!!!
Pre-Raid
Signing up / Available
In order to come to a raid, you must first show your interest by signing up. You do that on our Raid Planner here on the webby. The signups close at 18:00!
For raider ranks, the main raid days are Thursday, Sunday and Tuesday.
During Heroic progress at the start of the expansion, we are often adding extra Saturday raid as the social members / raiders alt / farm run on Normal mode.
Later on during Mythic progress, the farm night varies depending the progress and lineup etc.
Raid times are set at 20:30 - 23:00 (server time).
However a raid may finish earlier or slightly later than these times depending on the situation.
On the evening of the raid we start invites 15mins before the actual raid start time (20:15), it makes everyone's life easier if people are online at this time so that the raid leader can look for replacements and alter the setup of the group. If you are late we cannot guarantee your place will be kept.
If you sign up on a Guild run, we expect you to not be saved (loot locked) on bosses. We also expect our Raider ranks not to pug the content we are currently raiding. If you thinking about joining a random group or have a week where our raid times simply don't suite you, talk with officers about it first. Otherwise being saved or pugging current raid content might lead to raider rank being demoted.
Tactics
Everyone must read up on boss fights, don't read up? then please don't sign at all, as your wasting other raiders time that they have put aside from their lives.
For boss tactics, we'll generally use IcyVeins and Fatboss guides.
Mods
Raiders must come with the following addons installed / enabled, you can download these from (https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow).
Deadly Boss Mods or Bigwigs
Exorsus Raid tools
RCLootCouncil
Voice and outside game chat
We use Discord for voice, make sure to have it installed before the raid (https://discord.gg/jpPEfuC).
Ranks;
When a Raid Leader or Officer is starting the invites for the raid, the main factor for choosing people besides what class's we need is rank. The system speaks for itself, a member with the rank of 'Warbringer' will chosen above someone with the rank of 'Adventurer'. For more information of ranks, see the Guild Info article.
Alts
May join the raids where its mentioned on raid notes. Usually alt runs are on sunday once the content is on farm. You can make a new character profile for your alt or write on your mains note the alt name and ilvl that you'd like to come with, when signing for the raid. We need certain amount of tanks, healers and even main dps, so it might be that not everyone can bring their alt to same raid, some rotations might be needed. Also make sure that your alt has the required ilvls, enchants and so on, what is required for the raid.
Sometimes the Raid Leader might ask you to bring your alt for a certain role, for example if we are missing a tank or healer and your alt can fill that role.
During the Raid
Consumables
Using Foods, Flasks, Potions/Elixirs and runes for new bosses helps immensely. Make sure to bring the stuff requested in the raid planner.
If you lack something, make sure to ask officers before the raid and check the guild bank if you could lend some from there.
Raid Behaviour
A raid is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, but a certain level of maturity is expected from our raiders during a raid. Obviously we don't expect complete silence and eye squinting 110% concentration for 3 hours, have a good laugh with your fellow raiders but realise when its time to listen up (when a raid leader is giving instructions for example).
Don't whisper RL's with questions that can be answered by "20" other people, or tactic suggestions. Everytime you do, it stops them communicating to "20" others and having to focus on just you.
A fellow raid member having a tough night? Repeatedly having problems with 1 aspect of a boss fight? 'are you retarded' don't help much They just add to the pressure on that raider, see what you can do to help instead.
Don't start giving out instructions that contradict what the RL's are telling everyone. Having 10 people giving out different information only confuses people and wastes time.
If you have any major suggestions or tweaks, use the forum. For minor / quick adjustments, use raid, but as a question, not a instruction to others.
Patience
This can be a issue that effects DPS more than any other role, wait, we're not picking on you, keep reading You may feel like your being ignored at times in /raid chat, but the answer is that RL's just don't have the time to chat in /raid all the time.
For example, theres /o (officer chat) /dawntank (tank chat) & /dawnheal (healing chat) as well as /raid chat to deal with. The reason for all these channels is to cut the spam in /raid. If a boss attempt is unsuccessfully then tweaks & changes happen in these channels, if they spent more time in /raid then we would move even slower.
You're not being ignored.
Wipes
Well we know these happen (sometimes more than they should), but please try to remain focused on the job at hand. If you are required to corpse run, do so quickly, don't wait around. A large amount of raid time can be lost while waiting for one or two people to get back into the instance after dieing, a needless waste of everyone's time. Get back into waiting positions as quickly as possible, buff up and be ready to go when any tactical adjustments have been relayed.
/AFK
We usually have 1 break in raid, around halfway of the raid, for 5 minutes. People who arent back in time will be given 1 min countdown before being removed from the raid.
If you need to go afk outside of these times, please say, don't just leave 20 other people waiting around. If its because you fancy a smoke, or your mates calling on your phone, please leave that until the planned breaks. If its an emergency then its a different matter and of course do what you need to do, but try to keep us informed. Too often everyone takes turns going afk one after the other, where possible everyone can have a break at the same time leading to less wasted time. After all it's not the men's toilets, more than 1 person at a time isn't a bad thing.
Loot
For distributing precious epic gears, we use Master looter / loot council by officers.
This is to fasten up gearing the whole raid, getting rid of those last low ilvl pieces and to ensure that people have better change of the correct secondary stats for Mythic progression. When sorting the loot we are looking at: ilvl, stats, rank, attendance, roll.. and trying to keep it as "1loot/run".
Signing up / Available
In order to come to a raid, you must first show your interest by signing up. You do that on our Raid Planner here on the webby. The signups close at 18:00!
For raider ranks, the main raid days are Thursday, Sunday and Tuesday.
During Heroic progress at the start of the expansion, we are often adding extra Saturday raid as the social members / raiders alt / farm run on Normal mode.
Later on during Mythic progress, the farm night varies depending the progress and lineup etc.
Raid times are set at 20:30 - 23:00 (server time).
However a raid may finish earlier or slightly later than these times depending on the situation.
On the evening of the raid we start invites 15mins before the actual raid start time (20:15), it makes everyone's life easier if people are online at this time so that the raid leader can look for replacements and alter the setup of the group. If you are late we cannot guarantee your place will be kept.
If you sign up on a Guild run, we expect you to not be saved (loot locked) on bosses. We also expect our Raider ranks not to pug the content we are currently raiding. If you thinking about joining a random group or have a week where our raid times simply don't suite you, talk with officers about it first. Otherwise being saved or pugging current raid content might lead to raider rank being demoted.
Tactics
Everyone must read up on boss fights, don't read up? then please don't sign at all, as your wasting other raiders time that they have put aside from their lives.
For boss tactics, we'll generally use IcyVeins and Fatboss guides.
Mods
Raiders must come with the following addons installed / enabled, you can download these from (https://mods.curse.com/addons/wow).
Deadly Boss Mods or Bigwigs
Exorsus Raid tools
RCLootCouncil
Voice and outside game chat
We use Discord for voice, make sure to have it installed before the raid (https://discord.gg/jpPEfuC).
Ranks;
When a Raid Leader or Officer is starting the invites for the raid, the main factor for choosing people besides what class's we need is rank. The system speaks for itself, a member with the rank of 'Warbringer' will chosen above someone with the rank of 'Adventurer'. For more information of ranks, see the Guild Info article.
Alts
May join the raids where its mentioned on raid notes. Usually alt runs are on sunday once the content is on farm. You can make a new character profile for your alt or write on your mains note the alt name and ilvl that you'd like to come with, when signing for the raid. We need certain amount of tanks, healers and even main dps, so it might be that not everyone can bring their alt to same raid, some rotations might be needed. Also make sure that your alt has the required ilvls, enchants and so on, what is required for the raid.
Sometimes the Raid Leader might ask you to bring your alt for a certain role, for example if we are missing a tank or healer and your alt can fill that role.
During the Raid
Consumables
Using Foods, Flasks, Potions/Elixirs and runes for new bosses helps immensely. Make sure to bring the stuff requested in the raid planner.
If you lack something, make sure to ask officers before the raid and check the guild bank if you could lend some from there.
Raid Behaviour
A raid is supposed to be fun and enjoyable, but a certain level of maturity is expected from our raiders during a raid. Obviously we don't expect complete silence and eye squinting 110% concentration for 3 hours, have a good laugh with your fellow raiders but realise when its time to listen up (when a raid leader is giving instructions for example).
Don't whisper RL's with questions that can be answered by "20" other people, or tactic suggestions. Everytime you do, it stops them communicating to "20" others and having to focus on just you.
A fellow raid member having a tough night? Repeatedly having problems with 1 aspect of a boss fight? 'are you retarded' don't help much They just add to the pressure on that raider, see what you can do to help instead.
Don't start giving out instructions that contradict what the RL's are telling everyone. Having 10 people giving out different information only confuses people and wastes time.
If you have any major suggestions or tweaks, use the forum. For minor / quick adjustments, use raid, but as a question, not a instruction to others.
Patience
This can be a issue that effects DPS more than any other role, wait, we're not picking on you, keep reading You may feel like your being ignored at times in /raid chat, but the answer is that RL's just don't have the time to chat in /raid all the time.
For example, theres /o (officer chat) /dawntank (tank chat) & /dawnheal (healing chat) as well as /raid chat to deal with. The reason for all these channels is to cut the spam in /raid. If a boss attempt is unsuccessfully then tweaks & changes happen in these channels, if they spent more time in /raid then we would move even slower.
You're not being ignored.
Wipes
Well we know these happen (sometimes more than they should), but please try to remain focused on the job at hand. If you are required to corpse run, do so quickly, don't wait around. A large amount of raid time can be lost while waiting for one or two people to get back into the instance after dieing, a needless waste of everyone's time. Get back into waiting positions as quickly as possible, buff up and be ready to go when any tactical adjustments have been relayed.
/AFK
We usually have 1 break in raid, around halfway of the raid, for 5 minutes. People who arent back in time will be given 1 min countdown before being removed from the raid.
If you need to go afk outside of these times, please say, don't just leave 20 other people waiting around. If its because you fancy a smoke, or your mates calling on your phone, please leave that until the planned breaks. If its an emergency then its a different matter and of course do what you need to do, but try to keep us informed. Too often everyone takes turns going afk one after the other, where possible everyone can have a break at the same time leading to less wasted time. After all it's not the men's toilets, more than 1 person at a time isn't a bad thing.
Loot
For distributing precious epic gears, we use Master looter / loot council by officers.
This is to fasten up gearing the whole raid, getting rid of those last low ilvl pieces and to ensure that people have better change of the correct secondary stats for Mythic progression. When sorting the loot we are looking at: ilvl, stats, rank, attendance, roll.. and trying to keep it as "1loot/run".
The 10 commandments according to Dawn of the Undead
1. Thou shalt have no other guilds before me
2. Thou shalt not make for thyself an idol (unless of course you are a druid)
3. Thou shalt not make wrongful use of the name of the horde
4. Remember the raid times and keep them holy
5. Honor thy officers
6. Thou shalt not murder (unless it gives honor or gear)
7. Thou shalt not commit adult language in guild chat
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy guild mates
10. Thou shalt not covet your guild banks gold
Seriously though, Dawn of the Undead has some simple rules to follow - keep language in guild chat mature, listen to the officers and respect that their decisions is final, try to be helpful and friendly and you will notice how that makes people nice and friendly to you, do not beg for gold or try to sell stuff in guild chat, also do not expect people to boost you through instances, if you help others a lot they are likely to help you. That is also the best advice if you want to climb in ranks.
Ranks:
Cheerleader is the ALT rank for everyone except officers.
Adventurer is a standard membership rank and gives limited access to guild bank.
Warbringer is the rank for those committed to the raids organised by the officers. This includes being on time, prepare with pots and food, getting proper addons and keeping a team player attitude. Decent level of performance and knowledge of the fights is expected. We want to be able to bring our raider ranks to all of the content we are doing, this means also Mythic raiding.
Conqueror is a higher tier of raider, whos behaviour, helpfulness, class knowledge, skill and performance, stands out in PvE environments. Also expected to have good knowledge of the fights and a good attendance to keep the rank. It's just another raider with a fancier name.
Mini Moo is the ALT of an officer.
Medium Moo is the officers.
Chief Moo GM is just another officer with a fancier name.
Mains & Alts
Your alts are more than welcome in Dotu as long as there active and not just sitting there gathering dust.
Members of the Adventurer rank or below may change their main character, but with permission from the officer staff.
Switching main character for members with the Warbringer rank, or above, can prove more troublesome, as it may have an impact on raid gear / progress and has only been allowed in a handful of case's.
If you think switching your ALT to your main character is a good idea because you've geared your main up, then think again, this has a very negative impact on the raiding group as instead of gearing 35 or so raiders, that number increase's at no gain to the overall raid group.
If we are short on particular roles, then selected ALTs may be required to attend raids in place of your main. This does not mean that a player has 2 active main characters, but is simply filling in the gaps in the raid setup.
1. Thou shalt have no other guilds before me
2. Thou shalt not make for thyself an idol (unless of course you are a druid)
3. Thou shalt not make wrongful use of the name of the horde
4. Remember the raid times and keep them holy
5. Honor thy officers
6. Thou shalt not murder (unless it gives honor or gear)
7. Thou shalt not commit adult language in guild chat
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy guild mates
10. Thou shalt not covet your guild banks gold
Seriously though, Dawn of the Undead has some simple rules to follow - keep language in guild chat mature, listen to the officers and respect that their decisions is final, try to be helpful and friendly and you will notice how that makes people nice and friendly to you, do not beg for gold or try to sell stuff in guild chat, also do not expect people to boost you through instances, if you help others a lot they are likely to help you. That is also the best advice if you want to climb in ranks.
Ranks:
Cheerleader is the ALT rank for everyone except officers.
Adventurer is a standard membership rank and gives limited access to guild bank.
Warbringer is the rank for those committed to the raids organised by the officers. This includes being on time, prepare with pots and food, getting proper addons and keeping a team player attitude. Decent level of performance and knowledge of the fights is expected. We want to be able to bring our raider ranks to all of the content we are doing, this means also Mythic raiding.
Conqueror is a higher tier of raider, whos behaviour, helpfulness, class knowledge, skill and performance, stands out in PvE environments. Also expected to have good knowledge of the fights and a good attendance to keep the rank. It's just another raider with a fancier name.
Mini Moo is the ALT of an officer.
Medium Moo is the officers.
Chief Moo GM is just another officer with a fancier name.
Mains & Alts
Your alts are more than welcome in Dotu as long as there active and not just sitting there gathering dust.
Members of the Adventurer rank or below may change their main character, but with permission from the officer staff.
Switching main character for members with the Warbringer rank, or above, can prove more troublesome, as it may have an impact on raid gear / progress and has only been allowed in a handful of case's.
If you think switching your ALT to your main character is a good idea because you've geared your main up, then think again, this has a very negative impact on the raiding group as instead of gearing 35 or so raiders, that number increase's at no gain to the overall raid group.
If we are short on particular roles, then selected ALTs may be required to attend raids in place of your main. This does not mean that a player has 2 active main characters, but is simply filling in the gaps in the raid setup.
Disclaimer: The following is written by a 3 year old Undead Mage who's brain has decomposed quite significantly since starting WoW and it is quite possible that all the facts 'n figures of Dotu's history are not present in this article.
Dawn of the Undead (dotu) was born on the 4th of June 2005. (no, it was not anything to do with our American friends across the pond, purely a coincidence)
It was the brainchild of Zombina, an Undead Mage who at the level of 35 decided to create a place for her and her new found friends to call home.
Originally Dotu was an Undead only themed guild, this lasted for many months until we all started hitting the level cap of 60 and soon realised that having no Druids, Shaman or to a lesser extent Hunters progress would have been extremely slow if not impossible. And so, we opened our gates later in the year to Trolls, Orcs and Taurens , there was tusk shavings, bulky Kermit the Frog type creatures and cow sh*t everywhere.
It was shortly after this time that we merged with another guild, Heroes of Thrall who's leader was an Orc named Higgo (you may have heard of him).
In 2006 we started raiding. Most guilds have a label, there either a 'Casual' or 'Raiding' guild. We tryed to do both but it had its problems and a possible solution was thought of, a sister guild was born. Dawn Raiders was created in June and involved around 50 members who's key interest was raiding, moving over to this new guild. With both guilds working together, we cleared most of The Molten Core by July. However keeping both guilds together was proving very difficult as there is no in-game support for 'alliances', and we started to drift apart. Although there was no serious conflict, officers decided to re-merge the two guilds before the gap became too much.
We also had our second merge (yes, ok, we like merging, guess its our 'thing'), with STORM who we formed quite a good raiding relationship with. As our previous site (well, 'we have a history of webbys going 'boom!') went down, i cant remember when we had this merge, guessing around the summer?
In 2007, we saw the release of The Burning Crusade. One of the many features in this expansion was the reduction of people per raid, from 40, to 25. This meant that guilds didn't have to have a huge pool of players in order to raid and like so many other guilds, we downsized. Not a bad thing, but a few long-time friends moved on, some created there own guilds, some left WoW for good with talk about 'real life', heard about that before......meh
2007 also saw tremendous grief. The passing of our dear friend and Guild Leader, Zombina.
After a long fight with an illness, Z passed away on Sunday, 22nd of April. Still chokes me up whilst typing this. The thread can be found here:
http://dotu.woweuguild.com/index.php?topic=538.0
Shortly before Z's passing, leadership was handed over. Higgo has done outstanding job considering the circumstances and continues to lead Dotu into 2008
Dawn of the Undead has had its ups and down throughout the years as do does any guild, but it has brought many players together and great friendships have been made. You can never predict the future, but hopefully Dotu will continue to do just that.
If ive missed anything out (probably) just leave a comment and i'll update it
I used WarcraftRealms for some of the dates above, also went through the 'ex-members' page and some names brought back nice memories of players who have since left WoW (or ran away to another realm / character maybe?), thought id list some:
Cza (aka Ipswich) - One of our first officers, may even have been on the guild charter. Still keep in contact, think ive got him on facebook
Duraneth - One of our key priests in MC
Edinbear - One of our first officers and host of our first site, may even have been on the guild charter
Feagan - Another key priest in our MC days
Gnorrl - Tank and officer /salute
Klischy - Uber healer and mate;
Potato - Officer, think he had an alt named Masteh
Robyn - One of the first officers, havn't heard from him in ages
Scheer - Tank during MC days...i think
Sequrity - Every officer had the macro of '/rw Seq, wake up!' for raids, but we loved him
Sleak - Officer and rlf of Gnorrl
Starmaker - Looks like he's back in WoW, but deserves to go on this hall of fame for the thread in the officer forums that he inspired, we might make it public it was that good
Toxicsoul - Class leader and long time friend of many in dotu
Wrug - Host of our 2nd site
Hack - Awesome warrior and did loads of stuff for the website despite coming and going from the guild all the time (note, Hack may have also updated this page and added himself to it since he felt left out of the list..)
11/12/07 - Kazzul
Dawn of the Undead (dotu) was born on the 4th of June 2005. (no, it was not anything to do with our American friends across the pond, purely a coincidence)
It was the brainchild of Zombina, an Undead Mage who at the level of 35 decided to create a place for her and her new found friends to call home.
Originally Dotu was an Undead only themed guild, this lasted for many months until we all started hitting the level cap of 60 and soon realised that having no Druids, Shaman or to a lesser extent Hunters progress would have been extremely slow if not impossible. And so, we opened our gates later in the year to Trolls, Orcs and Taurens , there was tusk shavings, bulky Kermit the Frog type creatures and cow sh*t everywhere.
It was shortly after this time that we merged with another guild, Heroes of Thrall who's leader was an Orc named Higgo (you may have heard of him).
In 2006 we started raiding. Most guilds have a label, there either a 'Casual' or 'Raiding' guild. We tryed to do both but it had its problems and a possible solution was thought of, a sister guild was born. Dawn Raiders was created in June and involved around 50 members who's key interest was raiding, moving over to this new guild. With both guilds working together, we cleared most of The Molten Core by July. However keeping both guilds together was proving very difficult as there is no in-game support for 'alliances', and we started to drift apart. Although there was no serious conflict, officers decided to re-merge the two guilds before the gap became too much.
We also had our second merge (yes, ok, we like merging, guess its our 'thing'), with STORM who we formed quite a good raiding relationship with. As our previous site (well, 'we have a history of webbys going 'boom!') went down, i cant remember when we had this merge, guessing around the summer?
In 2007, we saw the release of The Burning Crusade. One of the many features in this expansion was the reduction of people per raid, from 40, to 25. This meant that guilds didn't have to have a huge pool of players in order to raid and like so many other guilds, we downsized. Not a bad thing, but a few long-time friends moved on, some created there own guilds, some left WoW for good with talk about 'real life', heard about that before......meh
2007 also saw tremendous grief. The passing of our dear friend and Guild Leader, Zombina.
After a long fight with an illness, Z passed away on Sunday, 22nd of April. Still chokes me up whilst typing this. The thread can be found here:
http://dotu.woweuguild.com/index.php?topic=538.0
Shortly before Z's passing, leadership was handed over. Higgo has done outstanding job considering the circumstances and continues to lead Dotu into 2008
Dawn of the Undead has had its ups and down throughout the years as do does any guild, but it has brought many players together and great friendships have been made. You can never predict the future, but hopefully Dotu will continue to do just that.
If ive missed anything out (probably) just leave a comment and i'll update it
I used WarcraftRealms for some of the dates above, also went through the 'ex-members' page and some names brought back nice memories of players who have since left WoW (or ran away to another realm / character maybe?), thought id list some:
Cza (aka Ipswich) - One of our first officers, may even have been on the guild charter. Still keep in contact, think ive got him on facebook
Duraneth - One of our key priests in MC
Edinbear - One of our first officers and host of our first site, may even have been on the guild charter
Feagan - Another key priest in our MC days
Gnorrl - Tank and officer /salute
Klischy - Uber healer and mate;
Potato - Officer, think he had an alt named Masteh
Robyn - One of the first officers, havn't heard from him in ages
Scheer - Tank during MC days...i think
Sequrity - Every officer had the macro of '/rw Seq, wake up!' for raids, but we loved him
Sleak - Officer and rlf of Gnorrl
Starmaker - Looks like he's back in WoW, but deserves to go on this hall of fame for the thread in the officer forums that he inspired, we might make it public it was that good
Toxicsoul - Class leader and long time friend of many in dotu
Wrug - Host of our 2nd site
Hack - Awesome warrior and did loads of stuff for the website despite coming and going from the guild all the time (note, Hack may have also updated this page and added himself to it since he felt left out of the list..)
11/12/07 - Kazzul
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